[Tox Support] About licenses of using toxcore for a free public applicaton

[☣Adam]

I can't speak for the toxcore developers and why they choose the license
they did. At the end of the day, they put in the time and effort to write
the code so if they only want to help GPL3 projects, that's their right.
People who don't like their terms, can just wrote their own implementation
of the protocol.

If you want an unencumbered implementation, the traditional way to get that
is to write up a detailed specification and then have someone implement it
who has never looked at the toxcore code. This ensures they aren't
inadvertently copying any GPL code.

I think it'd be great to have multiple implementations of the library. That
way if there's a bug in the core library it (probably) won't affect every
piece of tox-based software. However, I've looked at all the code in
toxcore, so I'm afraid I can't personally help you with the implementation.

I know it's not the answer you were looking for, but hopefully it gives you
a path forward.

--Adam

On Nov 16, 2017 11:18, "Nocs ..." <nocos30 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks adam but why all programmers that want with their open source code
> to help also the programmers society and use their codes tend to be so
> blind and use GPL instead of their own license simple or open public or
> other way that doesn`t harm other programmers.
>
>
> here is a respect programmer as to my words https://github.com/arvidn/
> libtorrent/blob/master/LICENSE
>
> also check at this sqlite3 https://sqlite.org/copyright.html respect
> about using their code
>
>
> Why an open source tox unique chat core want to make all others use their
> codes as open source if they use their lib inside their app just for simple
> functions?
>
> Why do they help in that way the big sharks who got the money by using the
> GPL ready licenses and not the free common programmers society by using
> open license about their codes ?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* ☣Adam <adam at dc949.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 16, 2017 6:07:41 PM
> *To:* Nocs ...
> *Cc:* nurupo; support at lists.tox.chat
> *Subject:* Re: [Tox Support] About licenses of using toxcore for a free
> public applicaton
>
> It'd have to be a separate application with some interprocess
> communication (IPC) mechanism. For example, on POSIX systems, there is
> sendmsg().
>
> Always make sure to understand the terms of the license *before* using
> someone else's code. It's a lot easier to deal with up front than at the
> end.
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2017 09:54, "Nocs ..." <nocos30 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response nurupo :/
>
> its a bit of disaponting the GPLv3 issue.
>
> Which of tox devs knows best what i can do about the license cause i need
> to use it somehow in my application but for free public use and i
>
> really don`t want to make it open source but its free.
>
> Is there anyone in tox devs that knows if i can do something else since i
> only use the core unafected ?
> ------------------------------
> *From:* nurupo <nurupo at tox.chat>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:51:43 PM
> *To:* Nocs ...
> *Cc:* support at lists.tox.chat
> *Subject:* Re: [Tox Support] About licenses of using toxcore for a free
> public applicaton
>
> Hello,
>
> toxcore is licensed under GPLv3, as seen in
> https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/blob/master/COPYING, so to use
> toxcore in your application you have to comply with the terms of the
> GPLv3 license.
>
> > The application is a free in all its services but not an open source
> > code application.
>
> Afaik, GPL license requires you to release your application under GPL
> license and provide the full source code of your application to your
> users. There should be no difference if you link it statically or
> dynamically. You are probably thinking of LGPL, which has a linking
> clause.
>
> I might be mistaking though, I have only basic understanding of licenses
> and by no means am I an expert in them. There are professionals in the
> legal field which deal with licensing, they should be able to help you
> with understanding licenses.
>
> ---
> Regards,
> nurupo
>
> On 2017-11-15 17:50, Nocs ... wrote:
> > Hello toxers,
> >
> > its been a long time and since i am on the latest test of some
> > application of mine that uses tox-core shared library i wanted to ask
> > you
> >
> > about the license of toxcore.
> >
> > Do i need to place anything on my application as text, inside or
> > outisde as a file if i make my application public ?
> >
> > The application is a free in all its services but not an open source
> > code application.
> >
> > I haven`t modified any code inside tox i only use the tox-core as is
> > from the shared library and i use the code and functions i need from
> > inside it.
> >
> > What kind of license thing does tox need to be inside my app and how
> > can i use it if anything is needed ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
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