From rugk at posteo.de  Mon Mar 21 18:50:40 2016
From: rugk at posteo.de (rugk)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:50:40 +0100
Subject: [General] =?utf-8?q?Install_instructions_at_https=3A//tox=2Echat?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3F_-_qTox_issue?=
Message-ID: <ba0654581b479bfe638dced4af175d0b@posteo.de>

Hi,
who is responsible for the installation instructions at 
https://tox.chat?
I am having an installation issue with qTox and one collaborator there 
says they "don't really care" about the instructions on the official 
website.

See issue https://github.com/tux3/qTox/issues/3030.

Best regards,
rugk

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From gdr at gdr.name  Mon Mar 21 19:48:30 2016
From: gdr at gdr.name (GDR!)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:48:30 +0100
Subject: [General] Install instructions at https://tox.chat? - qTox issue
In-Reply-To: <ba0654581b479bfe638dced4af175d0b@posteo.de>
References: <ba0654581b479bfe638dced4af175d0b@posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160321204830.11f961ba@gdr-desktop.gdr.name>

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:50:40 +0100
rugk <rugk at posteo.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> who is responsible for the installation instructions at 
> https://tox.chat?
> I am having an installation issue with qTox and one collaborator
> there says they "don't really care" about the instructions on the
> official website.
> 
> See issue https://github.com/tux3/qTox/issues/3030.


I'd open an issue here:

https://github.com/Tox/tox.chat


From email at oranges.net.nz  Mon Mar 21 20:53:49 2016
From: email at oranges.net.nz (oranges)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:53:49 +1300
Subject: [General] Install instructions at https://tox.chat? - qTox issue
In-Reply-To: <ba0654581b479bfe638dced4af175d0b@posteo.de>
References: <ba0654581b479bfe638dced4af175d0b@posteo.de>
Message-ID: <56F05F5D.1090003@oranges.net.nz>

Hello

What does your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tox.list file look like?

We have packages only for the following distributions

===From the tox.chat===
Please note that only Debian (Sid, Jessie and Stretch) and Ubuntu
(Vivid and Wily) are officially supported. If your distribution is not
supported you can find compilation instructions on client repos (check
the clients page).
===                 ===

Cheers
oranges

On 22/03/16 07:50, rugk wrote:
> Hi, who is responsible for the installation instructions at
> https://tox.chat? I am having an installation issue with qTox and
> one collaborator there says they "don't really care" about the
> instructions on the official website.
> 
> See issue https://github.com/tux3/qTox/issues/3030.
> 
> Best regards, rugk
> 


From zetok at openmailbox.org  Fri Mar 25 11:00:36 2016
From: zetok at openmailbox.org (Zetok Zalbavar)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:00:36 +0000
Subject: [General] Concept of P2P DHT
In-Reply-To: <56B4888D.5050308@gmail.com>
References: <56B3D495.9000006@gmail.com> <56B3D666.8060508@oranges.net.nz>
 <56B43DE7.7000201@tox.chat> <56B4888D.5050308@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56F51A54.4010801@openmailbox.org>

On 05.02.2016 11:33, Dogan Can BAKIR wrote:
> thank you guys, but i'm still confused so i'm gonna digging into Tox
> Docs. ill be appreciate if u can send more resources.
> thanks.

If you're still interested, actually improved docs are located in
https://github.com/TokTok/tox-spec.  If what already has been rewritten
is not clear, it would be nice to know :)

-- 

Kind regards,
Zetok Zalbavar
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29AE62F95C56063D833024B1CB5C2140DC4AEB94A80FF4596CACC460D7BAA062E0A92C3424A0

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From rugk at posteo.de  Wed Mar 30 11:34:39 2016
From: rugk at posteo.de (rugk)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:34:39 +0200
Subject: [General] Community problem - qTox
Message-ID: <646eb3ee5d600aa5572309120da57696@posteo.de>

Hi,
I think you have a serious community problem on the qTox side. I am a 
bit shocked to see a qTox contributor saying that it would be best if 
tox is "cut off and/or replaced" in qTox.

@zetok said:
>  One of things to be done - if there's a part of qTox that's rotting, 
> it should be cut off and/or replaced. Sounds drastic, and might not be 
> pleasant, but without "drastic" things there'd be no improvement..

For the full conversation see 
https://github.com/tux3/qTox/issues/3063#issuecomment-203004334.

*Edit:* After asking again whether qTox should be cut off, he responded 
that this "cut off" was only meant for the packages. He also said
> I don't know whether qTox should be "cut off" from "Tox", and I'm not 
> lobbying for that. I think that having a safe distance to something 
> that might prove damaging is preferable.

This still does not sound very convincing...

He also explains some communication issues and that
> Typical reaction I was getting [when contacting the tox team] ranged 
> from ignoring the issues, to outright kickbanning from #tox channels 
> for stating differing opinion.

Also the tox.chat website is only "slightly better than 'just some 
random website'" for him.

So please be friendly to each other. It really should not happen that a 
contributor of one tox client distances him/herself so much from the 
rest of the tox community.
When I said qTox and tox have the same mission @zetok said:
> Personally, I'm not even convinced that Tox has the same "mission". If 
> they do, then things they do seem rather strange and counter-intuitive 
> to what one would expect.

So, hell, no. I seriously hope you have the same mission. - Although I 
cannot find a mission statement on the tox.chat website. (Maybe that's 
something you can improve?)

Best regards,
rugk


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