From rugk at posteo.de Tue Apr 5 22:21:02 2016 From: rugk at posteo.de (rugk) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:21:02 +0200 Subject: [General] Tox Foundation litigation Message-ID: Hi all, Your Aprils fool about Donald Trump was fun, indeed. (https://blog.tox.chat/2016/04/tox-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/) But what the hell is the one at tox.im? https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ This is not fun anymore... * it was also posted on 1st of April, but shows the incorrect date like the fool on tox.chat * it was posted on the old tox.im site, which was only lead by one former developer AFAIK So what is that? -- I offer PGP support. To send me a PGP-encrypted mail, please ask for my private mail address. From email at oranges.net.nz Tue Apr 5 22:23:56 2016 From: email at oranges.net.nz (oranges) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:23:56 +1200 Subject: [General] Tox Foundation litigation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57043AFC.60103@oranges.net.nz> > https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ > * it was also posted on 1st of April, but shows the incorrect date > like the fool on tox.chat * it was posted on the old tox.im site, > which was only lead by one former developer AFAIK > > So what is that? Either a joke or nonsense, as it is, we no longer have any contact with them and they have no basis for litigation since all project logos and names are in the public domain. Personally I'd rather people just ignored that old domain. From nurupocontributions at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 22:35:52 2016 From: nurupocontributions at gmail.com (nurupo) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:35:52 -0400 Subject: [General] Tox Foundation litigation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Looks like April Fool's post to me. None of Tox's names or logos are trademarked. >So what is that? Direct this question to the author of that blog post rather than us, we are as clueless as you are. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:21 PM, rugk wrote: > Hi all, > Your Aprils fool about Donald Trump was fun, indeed. ( > https://blog.tox.chat/2016/04/tox-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/) > But what the hell is the one at tox.im? > https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ > This is not fun anymore... > > * it was also posted on 1st of April, but shows the incorrect date like > the fool on tox.chat > * it was posted on the old tox.im site, which was only lead by one former > developer AFAIK > > So what is that? > > -- > I offer PGP support. To send me a PGP-encrypted mail, please ask for my > private mail address. > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rugk at posteo.de Wed Apr 6 20:08:35 2016 From: rugk at posteo.de (rugk) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 22:08:35 +0200 Subject: [General] Tox Foundation litigation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: But this is not funny. BTW I also posted on Reddit about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/projecttox/comments/4diuam/tox_foundation_litigation/ @nurupo BTW: Could you please reply to the mailing list next time as the mails get sorted differently when not done so. --- I offer PGP support. To send me a PGP-encrypted mail, please ask for my private mail address. Am 06.04.2016 00:35 schrieb nurupo: > Hello, > > Looks like April Fool's post to me. > None of Tox's names or logos are trademarked. > >> So what is that? > Direct this question to the author of that blog post rather than us, > we are as clueless as you are. > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:21 PM, rugk wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Your Aprils fool about Donald Trump was fun, indeed. >> > (https://blog.tox.chat/2016/04/tox-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/ >> [1]) >> But what the hell is the one at tox.im [2]? >> https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ [3] >> This is not fun anymore... >> >> * it was also posted on 1st of April, but shows the incorrect date >> like the fool on tox.chat >> * it was posted on the old tox.im [2] site, which was only lead by >> one former developer AFAIK >> >> So what is that? >> >> -- >> I offer PGP support. To send me a PGP-encrypted mail, please ask >> for my private mail address. >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at lists.tox.chat >> https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general [4] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > https://blog.tox.chat/2016/04/tox-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/ > [2] http://tox.im > [3] https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ > [4] https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general From zero-one at tox.chat Wed Apr 6 20:26:41 2016 From: zero-one at tox.chat (zero-one) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 13:26:41 -0700 Subject: [General] Tox Foundation litigation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57057101.5060400@tox.chat> You are free to find this as funny or unfunny as you like. On 04/06/2016 01:08 PM, rugk wrote: > But this is not funny. > BTW I also posted on Reddit about this: > https://www.reddit.com/r/projecttox/comments/4diuam/tox_foundation_litigation/ > > @nurupo BTW: Could you please reply to the mailing list next time as > the mails get sorted differently when not done so. > > --- > I offer PGP support. To send me a PGP-encrypted mail, please ask for > my private mail address. > > Am 06.04.2016 00:35 schrieb nurupo: >> Hello, >> >> Looks like April Fool's post to me. >> None of Tox's names or logos are trademarked. >> >>> So what is that? >> Direct this question to the author of that blog post rather than us, >> we are as clueless as you are. >> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:21 PM, rugk wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Your Aprils fool about Donald Trump was fun, indeed. >>> >> (https://blog.tox.chat/2016/04/tox-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/ >>> [1]) >>> But what the hell is the one at tox.im [2]? >>> https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ [3] >>> This is not fun anymore... >>> >>> * it was also posted on 1st of April, but shows the incorrect date >>> like the fool on tox.chat >>> * it was posted on the old tox.im [2] site, which was only lead by >>> one former developer AFAIK >>> >>> So what is that? >>> >>> -- >>> I offer PGP support. To send me a PGP-encrypted mail, please ask >>> for my private mail address. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at lists.tox.chat >>> https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general [4] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] >> https://blog.tox.chat/2016/04/tox-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/ >> [2] http://tox.im >> [3] https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ >> [4] https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general From email at oranges.net.nz Wed Apr 6 22:48:44 2016 From: email at oranges.net.nz (oranges) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:48:44 +1200 Subject: [General] Tox Foundation litigation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5705924C.4040807@oranges.net.nz> would you prefer if we dispatched a kill team to his location to take care of him? On 07/04/16 08:08, rugk wrote: > But this is not funny. 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URL: From johannes_schwab at gmx.de Thu Apr 7 22:28:12 2016 From: johannes_schwab at gmx.de (Johannes Schwab) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 00:28:12 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun Message-ID: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> Hi list, I want to introduce to you libToxTun, a library that provides an easy (one- click) way to create virtual network connections to friends. It creates virtual network interfaces on both end of the connection, auto- selects and assigns IP-Addresses and uses Tox's API to transfer the data. You can find the sources at https://github.com/ddorian1/libToxTun. A sample client and usage informations can be found here: http://toxtun.jschwab.org I hope it proves useful for someone. Feedback, booth positive and negative, is much appreciated. Regards, Johannes From lennart at hamburg.freifunk.net Thu Apr 7 22:53:11 2016 From: lennart at hamburg.freifunk.net (lennart) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 00:53:11 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> Message-ID: <5706E4D7.8060506@hamburg.freifunk.net> Hi Johannes, this is awesome! I wanted to build something like a fusion of syncthing [0] and retroshare [1] for tox. It should be super convenient and a new way how everyone shares and access files. Unfortunately my C-skills are too poor an I concentrated on other stuff. Your tool might help me :) Thanks! [0] http://syncthing.net/ [1] http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/ On 04/08/2016 12:28 AM, Johannes Schwab wrote: > Hi list, > > I want to introduce to you libToxTun, a library that provides an easy (one- > click) way to create virtual network connections to friends. > It creates virtual network interfaces on both end of the connection, auto- > selects and assigns IP-Addresses and uses Tox's API to transfer the data. > > You can find the sources at https://github.com/ddorian1/libToxTun. > A sample client and usage informations can be found here: > http://toxtun.jschwab.org > > I hope it proves useful for someone. > Feedback, booth positive and negative, is much appreciated. > > Regards, > Johannes > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general > From nurupocontributions at gmail.com Thu Apr 7 22:54:22 2016 From: nurupocontributions at gmail.com (nurupo) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 18:54:22 -0400 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> Message-ID: Hello, Your project looks interesting. There is something similar already written -- ToxVPN https://github.com/cleverca22/toxvpn Would be interesting to see how these two projects compare to each other, besides one being an application and another a library. Maybe you and clever would even collaborate. On Apr 7, 2016 6:28 PM, "Johannes Schwab" wrote: > Hi list, > > I want to introduce to you libToxTun, a library that provides an easy (one- > click) way to create virtual network connections to friends. > It creates virtual network interfaces on both end of the connection, auto- > selects and assigns IP-Addresses and uses Tox's API to transfer the data. > > You can find the sources at https://github.com/ddorian1/libToxTun. > A sample client and usage informations can be found here: > http://toxtun.jschwab.org > > I hope it proves useful for someone. > Feedback, booth positive and negative, is much appreciated. > > Regards, > Johannes > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From impyy at tox.chat Thu Apr 7 23:00:06 2016 From: impyy at tox.chat (Impyy) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 01:00:06 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> Message-ID: <5706E676.3000201@tox.chat> Hi, This looks cool. I found another project that's fairly similar: https://github.com/gjedeer/tuntox. Perhaps there's room for collaboration :) I see you patched qTox to add support for your library. Do you plan on submitting your changes upstream at some point in the future? Impyy On 04/08/2016 12:28 AM, Johannes Schwab wrote: > Hi list, > > I want to introduce to you libToxTun, a library that provides an easy (one- > click) way to create virtual network connections to friends. > It creates virtual network interfaces on both end of the connection, auto- > selects and assigns IP-Addresses and uses Tox's API to transfer the data. > > You can find the sources at https://github.com/ddorian1/libToxTun. > A sample client and usage informations can be found here: > http://toxtun.jschwab.org > > I hope it proves useful for someone. > Feedback, booth positive and negative, is much appreciated. > > Regards, > Johannes > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general From johannes_schwab at gmx.de Fri Apr 8 13:22:42 2016 From: johannes_schwab at gmx.de (Johannes Schwab) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 15:22:42 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <5706E4D7.8060506@hamburg.freifunk.net> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> <5706E4D7.8060506@hamburg.freifunk.net> Message-ID: <6246335.Eqe85eZnzs@johannespc> Never heard of syncthing, looks interesting :) On Friday 08 April 2016 00:53:11 lennart wrote: > Hi Johannes, > > this is awesome! > I wanted to build something like a fusion of syncthing [0] and > retroshare [1] for tox. It should be super convenient and a new way how > everyone shares and access files. Unfortunately my C-skills are too poor > an I concentrated on other stuff. > Your tool might help me :) > Thanks! > > [0] http://syncthing.net/ > [1] http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/ > > On 04/08/2016 12:28 AM, Johannes Schwab wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I want to introduce to you libToxTun, a library that provides an easy > > (one- > > click) way to create virtual network connections to friends. > > It creates virtual network interfaces on both end of the connection, auto- > > selects and assigns IP-Addresses and uses Tox's API to transfer the data. > > > > You can find the sources at https://github.com/ddorian1/libToxTun. > > A sample client and usage informations can be found here: > > http://toxtun.jschwab.org > > > > I hope it proves useful for someone. > > Feedback, booth positive and negative, is much appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > Johannes > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at lists.tox.chat > > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general From johannes_schwab at gmx.de Fri Apr 8 13:29:33 2016 From: johannes_schwab at gmx.de (Johannes Schwab) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 15:29:33 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> Message-ID: <2705430.MR1AVDE7MA@johannespc> Hi, I have seen this too, but I think the goals are somehow different. While toxvpn looks like a great tool for "powerusers", I want to create something everyone can use. Never the less there surely are some parts both projects have in common. On Thursday 07 April 2016 18:54:22 nurupo wrote: > Hello, > > Your project looks interesting. > > There is something similar already written -- ToxVPN > https://github.com/cleverca22/toxvpn > Would be interesting to see how these two projects compare to each other, > besides one being an application and another a library. > Maybe you and clever would even collaborate. > > On Apr 7, 2016 6:28 PM, "Johannes Schwab" wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I want to introduce to you libToxTun, a library that provides an easy > > (one- > > click) way to create virtual network connections to friends. > > It creates virtual network interfaces on both end of the connection, auto- > > selects and assigns IP-Addresses and uses Tox's API to transfer the data. > > > > You can find the sources at https://github.com/ddorian1/libToxTun. > > A sample client and usage informations can be found here: > > http://toxtun.jschwab.org > > > > I hope it proves useful for someone. > > Feedback, booth positive and negative, is much appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > Johannes > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at lists.tox.chat > > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general From johannes_schwab at gmx.de Fri Apr 8 13:33:57 2016 From: johannes_schwab at gmx.de (Johannes Schwab) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 15:33:57 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <5706E676.3000201@tox.chat> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> <5706E676.3000201@tox.chat> Message-ID: <3340111.FalhPt4oD0@johannespc> I wasn't aware of this one, will look into it. Thanks :) If the library gets somehow stable at some point, I was thinking of offering the patches to upstream. Maybe they are interested. On Friday 08 April 2016 01:00:06 Impyy wrote: > Hi, > > This looks cool. > I found another project that's fairly similar: > https://github.com/gjedeer/tuntox. Perhaps there's room for collaboration :) > > I see you patched qTox to add support for your library. Do you plan on > submitting your changes upstream at some point in the future? > > Impyy > > On 04/08/2016 12:28 AM, Johannes Schwab wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I want to introduce to you libToxTun, a library that provides an easy > > (one- > > click) way to create virtual network connections to friends. > > It creates virtual network interfaces on both end of the connection, auto- > > selects and assigns IP-Addresses and uses Tox's API to transfer the data. > > > > You can find the sources at https://github.com/ddorian1/libToxTun. > > A sample client and usage informations can be found here: > > http://toxtun.jschwab.org > > > > I hope it proves useful for someone. > > Feedback, booth positive and negative, is much appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > Johannes > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at lists.tox.chat > > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general From zetok at openmailbox.org Fri Apr 8 18:47:45 2016 From: zetok at openmailbox.org (Zetok Zalbavar) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 19:47:45 +0100 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <2705430.MR1AVDE7MA@johannespc> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> <2705430.MR1AVDE7MA@johannespc> Message-ID: <5707FCD1.60501@openmailbox.org> On 08.04.2016 14:29, Johannes Schwab wrote: > Hi, > > I have seen this too, but I think the goals are somehow different. > While toxvpn looks like a great tool for "powerusers", I want to create > something everyone can use. Not really. toxvpn was supposed to be user-friendly; if it's not really, it's mainly due to its creator focusing on getting it to work. I'm pretty sure that they would appreciate help when it comes to making it user friendly. Also, given your project name, I'd expect from it to be even less user-friendly than toxvpn is.. -- Kind regards, Zetok Zalbavar ---- My Tox ID: 29AE62F95C56063D833024B1CB5C2140DC4AEB94A80FF4596CACC460D7BAA062E0A92C3424A0 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gdr at gdr.name Mon Apr 11 17:10:28 2016 From: gdr at gdr.name (GDR!) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 19:10:28 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <3340111.FalhPt4oD0@johannespc> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> <5706E676.3000201@tox.chat> <3340111.FalhPt4oD0@johannespc> Message-ID: <20160411191028.5893bdb6@gdr-desktop.gdr.name> On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 15:33:57 +0200 Johannes Schwab wrote: > I wasn't aware of this one, will look into it. Thanks :) Author of tuntox here: dude, the name you chose... people will confuse our projects. Nice work, otherwise! From tox at gajdusek.net Sun Apr 17 12:46:41 2016 From: tox at gajdusek.net (tox at gajdusek.net) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:46:41 +0200 Subject: [General] PHP toxme on your domain Message-ID: <571385B1.9050001@gajdusek.net> Hi all, if I understand correctly, tox clients want stop using tox dns. Preferred way is use toxme web api (I don't know name, but I mean protocol used on https://toxme.io ) I created simple php script https://github.com/franta/phptoxme which can be uploaded to webhosting (https support with valid certificate is required), and you can use your domain in tox dns address. Script is trivial, with few functionality, with hard coded names and ids. Not require database or other external libraries. I try uTox, qTox and Antox, and only first is not working. Regards, Franta From stal at tox.chat Sun Apr 17 13:24:21 2016 From: stal at tox.chat (Rayet Areash) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:24:21 -0700 Subject: [General] PHP toxme on your domain In-Reply-To: <571385B1.9050001@gajdusek.net> References: <571385B1.9050001@gajdusek.net> Message-ID: <24D69D53-3CF0-47F2-9C62-5BE2EE559B70@tox.chat> Thanks for taking the time to make this. It's great to have alternatives to the reference server. > uTox Known issue, not your fault ;) Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2016, at 05:46, tox at gajdusek.net wrote: > > Hi all, > > if I understand correctly, tox clients want stop using tox dns. Preferred way is use toxme web api (I don't know name, but I mean protocol used on https://toxme.io ) > > I created simple php script https://github.com/franta/phptoxme which can be uploaded to webhosting (https support with valid certificate is required), and you can use your domain in tox dns address. > > Script is trivial, with few functionality, with hard coded names and ids. Not require database or other external libraries. > > I try uTox, qTox and Antox, and only first is not working. > > Regards, > Franta > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at lists.tox.chat > https://lists.tox.chat/listinfo/general From johannes_schwab at gmx.de Sun Apr 24 12:15:13 2016 From: johannes_schwab at gmx.de (Johannes Schwab) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:15:13 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <5707FCD1.60501@openmailbox.org> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> <2705430.MR1AVDE7MA@johannespc> <5707FCD1.60501@openmailbox.org> Message-ID: <1574514.OXMNdkyYFL@johannespc> > Not really. toxvpn was supposed to be user-friendly; if it's not really, > it's mainly due to its creator focusing on getting it to work. I'm > pretty sure that they would appreciate help when it comes to making it > user friendly. > > Also, given your project name, I'd expect from it to be even less > user-friendly than toxvpn is.. Sorry for late answer, was away lately... Toxvpn is user-friendly in terms of "I know what a manpage is, I can use this without problems", but it's a command line tool and most people sadly don't know how to use them. From johannes_schwab at gmx.de Sun Apr 24 12:17:19 2016 From: johannes_schwab at gmx.de (Johannes Schwab) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:17:19 +0200 Subject: [General] Want to introduce: libToxTun In-Reply-To: <20160411191028.5893bdb6@gdr-desktop.gdr.name> References: <1581983.iGeMapC0Yb@johannespc> <3340111.FalhPt4oD0@johannespc> <20160411191028.5893bdb6@gdr-desktop.gdr.name> Message-ID: <1519437.UuEvlQZSmh@johannespc> > > Author of tuntox here: dude, the name you chose... people will confuse > our projects. > Sorry for that! Maybe I should think of another name... 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