<div dir="auto">I can't speak for the toxcore developers and why they choose the license they did. At the end of the day, they put in the time and effort to write the code so if they only want to help GPL3 projects, that's their right. People who don't like their terms, can just wrote their own implementation of the protocol.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you want an unencumbered implementation, the traditional way to get that is to write up a detailed specification and then have someone implement it who has never looked at the toxcore code. This ensures they aren't inadvertently copying any GPL code.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think it'd be great to have multiple implementations of the library. That way if there's a bug in the core library it (probably) won't affect every piece of tox-based software. However, I've looked at all the code in toxcore, so I'm afraid I can't personally help you with the implementation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know it's not the answer you were looking for, but hopefully it gives you a path forward.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--Adam</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 16, 2017 11:18, "Nocs ..." <<a href="mailto:nocos30@hotmail.com">nocos30@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Thanks adam but why all programmers that want with their open source code to help also the programmers society and use their codes tend to be so blind and use GPL instead of their own license simple or open public or other way that doesn`t harm other programmers.</p>
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<p>here is a respect programmer as to my words <a href="https://github.com/arvidn/libtorrent/blob/master/LICENSE" class="m_4477795833697927609OWAAutoLink" target="_blank">
https://github.com/arvidn/<wbr>libtorrent/blob/master/LICENSE</a></p>
<p>also check at this sqlite3 <a href="https://sqlite.org/copyright.html" class="m_4477795833697927609OWAAutoLink" target="_blank">
https://sqlite.org/copyright.<wbr>html</a> respect about using their code <br>
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<p>Why an open source tox unique chat core want to make all others use their codes as open source if they use their lib inside their app just for simple functions?</p>
<p>Why do they help in that way the big sharks who got the money by using the GPL ready licenses and not the free common programmers society by using open license about their codes ?</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 16, 2017 6:07:41 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tox Support] About licenses of using toxcore for a free public applicaton</font>
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<div dir="auto">It'd have to be a separate application with some interprocess communication (IPC) mechanism. For example, on POSIX systems, there is sendmsg().
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<div dir="auto">Always make sure to understand the terms of the license *before* using someone else's code. It's a lot easier to deal with up front than at the end.</div>
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<div class="m_4477795833697927609x_gmail_quote">On Nov 16, 2017 09:54, "Nocs ..." <<a href="mailto:nocos30@hotmail.com" target="_blank">nocos30@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<p>Thanks for the response nurupo :/ <br>
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<p>its a bit of disaponting the GPLv3 issue.</p>
<p>Which of tox devs knows best what i can do about the license cause i need to use it somehow in my application but for free public use and i
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<p>really don`t want to make it open source but its free.</p>
<p>Is there anyone in tox devs that knows if i can do something else since i only use the core unafected ?<br>
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toxcore is licensed under GPLv3, as seen in <br>
<a href="https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/blob/master/COPYING" target="_blank">https://github.com/TokTok/c-to<wbr>xcore/blob/master/COPYING</a>, so to use
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toxcore in your application you have to comply with the terms of the <br>
GPLv3 license.<br>
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> The application is a free in all its services but not an open source<br>
> code application.<br>
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Afaik, GPL license requires you to release your application under GPL <br>
license and provide the full source code of your application to your <br>
users. There should be no difference if you link it statically or <br>
dynamically. You are probably thinking of LGPL, which has a linking <br>
clause.<br>
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I might be mistaking though, I have only basic understanding of licenses <br>
and by no means am I an expert in them. There are professionals in the <br>
legal field which deal with licensing, they should be able to help you <br>
with understanding licenses.<br>
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nurupo<br>
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On 2017-11-15 17:50, Nocs ... wrote:<br>
> Hello toxers,<br>
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> its been a long time and since i am on the latest test of some<br>
> application of mine that uses tox-core shared library i wanted to ask<br>
> you<br>
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> about the license of toxcore.<br>
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> Do i need to place anything on my application as text, inside or<br>
> outisde as a file if i make my application public ?<br>
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> The application is a free in all its services but not an open source<br>
> code application.<br>
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> I haven`t modified any code inside tox i only use the tox-core as is<br>
> from the shared library and i use the code and functions i need from<br>
> inside it.<br>
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> What kind of license thing does tox need to be inside my app and how<br>
> can i use it if anything is needed ?<br>
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> Thanks in advance<br>
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